I had forgotten about this thread until I got an email that there was an active post.

Definitely paid likes, WatchDog. I see they are also selling their product on Amazon. "Frezzor Omega-3 Gold Dietary Supplement More Powerful Than Omega XL"

What direct sales company markets their product on Amazon? I probably just helped their SEO ranking for that page by posting it here.

The first Amazon review is about giving it to animals:

"We started our animals a couple of months ago on FREZZOR Omega-3 Gold. Their skin is no longer dry, the fur is healthy and looks shiny..."

I just checked the stats for this company. Frezzor looks positively flatlined.

The Frezzor Facebook page shows 30,364 likes. My gut opinion is those were paid likes. There's only a 124 person "engagement" factor, and  a negative 90.9% decline in new "likes" over last week, last week being a total of "2" - yes "TWO".

This is what can potentially happen when a company pays for likes, not understanding the metrics are out there to determine if they are accurate or not. If Frezzor averaged 2 new likes last week, it would take 15,000 weeks for them to accumulate 30,000 likes. That's 288 years.

I wish I could scroll back and see more history, for where this spike occurred. Likes can be had for cheap, but it's not advertising. Advertising brings in customers. "Likes' just create a bit of puffery for the ego on the Facebook page.

The Frezzor Twitter feed seems to be alive and active, with a more accurate sounding "260" followers.

She may have had great judgement. Surprised FREZZOR is still in business.

The company just seems to be a complete knockoff of MOXXOR, the result of two twin brothers having an epic falling out.

Logo, color scheme, everything on the FREZZOR site looks like it was knocked off from the MOXXOR site. Who knows which came first, the chicken, the egg, or the two egg shaped domes of the fueding twins, but if you check the trend report on MLMRankings it looks like FREZZOR has flatlined:  http://www.mlmrankings.com/frezzor/trend.htm

MOXXOR is still active, but seems to be in decline: http://www.mlmrankings.com/moxxor/trend.htm

If you do a comparison between the two, Frezzor comes in at a fraction of a fraction of the popularity of MOXXOR 0.418 % ) . While the raw numbers are not available, I am guessing that FREZZOR is ranking at rock bottom with whatever the baseline metric is before ending up on the rankings 'dropped' list and that's why the comparison is so dismal.

John Turner 1 ( MOXXOR CEO ) : Noel Turner 0 ( FREZZOR CEO ) - or should I say C E "O - SH*T" I'm getting crushed by the competition.

My friend was a Moxxor rep. When it got weird she went to regenerect. Asked about Frezzor, she said she wouldn't touch it with a ten foot pole.

I forgot I was once subscribed to the MOXXOR email list and just got a found a notice about a new Chief Science Advisor. Dunno how much science there is in a product that's already been out for a few years.

Last I heard the CEO John Turner was running the company from overseas and that there was fallout and a struggle over the company between the co-ceo brothers John and Noel.

Now there is FREZZOR that looks like a snapshot of the same color scheme and maybe even the product. Haven't heard any buzz about FREZZOR and MOXXOR seems to be in decline as well.

Is anyone active on the boards here still active with MOXXOR or now FREZZOR?

Any active or former reps from FREZZOR who can comment on whether the company is active?

( Previously posted in another thread )

The company just seems to be a complete knockoff of MOXXOR, the result of two twin brothers having an epic falling out.

Logo, color scheme, everything on the FREZZOR site looks like it was knocked off from the MOXXOR site. Who knows which came first, the chicken, the egg, or the two egg shaped domes of the fueding twins, but if you check the trend report on MLMRankings it looks like FREZZOR has flatlined:  http://www.mlmrankings.com/frezzor/trend.htm

MOXXOR is still active, but seems to be in decline: http://www.mlmrankings.com/moxxor/trend.htm

If you do a comparison between the two, Frezzor comes in at a fraction of a fraction of the popularity of MOXXOR 0.418 % ) . While the raw numbers are not available, I am guessing that FREZZOR is ranking at rock bottom with whatever the baseline metric is before ending up on the rankings 'dropped' list and that's why the comparison is so dismal.

John Turner 1 ( MOXXOR CEO ) : Noel Turner 0 ( FREZZOR CEO ) - or should I say C E "O - SH*T" I'm getting crushed by the competition.

MOXXOR   CHIEF SCIENCE ADVISOR INTRODUCTION

MOXXOR welcomes Ilios   Garcia as Chief Science Advisor to our team. It is with great   pleasure and excitment that we introduce Ilios to all of you. Ilios   specializes in natural medicines and biomechanics and has consulted for many large European supplement companies on production, formulation & market   targeting. Ilios brings a wealth of knowledge and experience to the company   and will be involved in all aspects on the product, from quality improvements   to answering science related questions.

Personal Background
Ilios Garcia was born in Bilbao (Spain) in 1975 as part of a very large family. At the age of 8 years old, he moved with his family to Barcelona to carry on his education at the local elementary school and was very active in sports. In 1992, at the age of 16 Ilios was influenced by his uncle to discover his passion for bodybuilding, and became an international bodybuilding instructor. Through this period his interest for exercise, health and medicine increased, to where he studied to become an aerobic yoga instructor and a neuromuscular re-programmer. It was during this period that he was influenced by her sister who was a professional ballerina, to enter ballet as a student. In 1995 Ilios was invited to be a part of the board of instructors for the national ballet team and was in charge of the classes for yoga, stretching and neuromuscular therapy.

Ilios achieved the highest level in his field, and was able to combine his passion for sports with his love for holistic medicines. He completed his certifications in nutrition, massage therapy, physical therapy, kinesiology, reflexology, osteopathy, naturopathy, traditional Chinese medicine and acupuncture as well as actively studying psychology. Throughout those years, Ilios had the opportunity to travel to the USA and work in the Scottsdale Healthcare Hospital (Arizona) as a PTA. After this he came back to Spain where he continued his education and his multiple sporting activities including becoming certified in scuba diving, sky diving, as well as ice and rock climbing.

On completing of all his certifications, Ilios opened his own private clinic for full holistic medicine, combining his knowledge of sports medicine with his passion for natural medicines and his experience on manual therapy. He soon became well known in Barcelona, and became a member of the international board of teachers on several universities and organizations worldwide at the Saint Petersburg, Moscow, Kiev, Crimea, Odessa Universities. He also attended the CODEPE Organization in Mexico and Colombia. Through his business he provided consultant services for different large orthomolecular nutrition companies in his own country, advising on production, formulation, branding and market targeting. In 2010 he took the decision to close his business and move to his wife's home country of Japan with his 18 month old son. On 2 April 2013, Ilios was invited by MOXXOR founder John Turner to join MOXXOR as Chief Science Advisor.

( Is the company being run from Japan? )

The latest in the MOXXOR brothers saga is that brother Noel has launched a new company to compete with brother John's MOXXOR.

http://www.frezzor.com - the site and logo are very similar to MOXXOR, but the products are not quite the same.

Neither company seems to have much traction in the marketplace at the moment.

Not suprising at all, I heard that there was a divorce from a Japanese source, apparently very bitter.

Moxxor mussel oil was crap anyway, and I am not sure how Mike Adams has fared in the divorce proceedings. His seduction by TwiddleDee and TwiddleDum was sick to watch.

Since my first post things certainly have taken an interesting turn at MOXXOR.

Twin brothers Noel Turner and John turner are splitsville. As in Noel's name no longer appears on the website.

Emails to MOXXOR indicate a weird absentee CEO situation. They also appear to have moved out of their former headquarters.

Former "CO-CEO" Noel Turner is now CEO of "FREZZOR" ( supposed to rhyme with Free-To-Soar, don't try to wrap your head around the logic behind that or the catch phrase or your brain will just hurt ).  FREZZOR - all caps just like MOXXOR - markets a nutritional powdered greens product and now a new antioxidant supplement strikingly similar to MOXXORs 'Moxxor' product.

Turf wars in the neutraceutical arena, brother v brother. Can't wait to see who prevails or if both companies disappear.

Unfortunately the science behind Moxxor simply does not stack up. Sorry to disillusion any believers but note the following.

(1) The Moxxor Green lipped mussel oil component has 52% Oleic Acid, 3.3% DHA, and 4.7% EPA. These are their own figures.  An  extraction done by schoolboy following a text book yields less than 2% Oleic acid, at least 15% DHA, and around 24 % EPA.

(2) Oleic acid is not desirable, but DHA and EPA are extremely desirable. So how could a schoolboy get around five times the desirable and 4% of the undesirables acids that Moxxor do.

(3) I have challenged the Moxxor leaders to explain, no  response.

The science does not stack up IF what they advertise is true.

You simply cannot get 2600% Oleic Acid from a standard extraction of Green shell mussel.

Oleic acid is the main component of Olive oil.

Moxxor are either using a filler and/or using a spent mussel powder (commonly called defatted) for their extractions.

MLM enthusiasts should be careful.

Fantastic!!!!!!!!! Finally someone with REAL intelligence.

Yes, The GSM oil that Moxxor sells is NOT PROCESSED USING THE PATENTED process developed by Dr. Whitehouse!! It is processed with chemicals.

It is not the same grade as Lyprinol!!! It does NOT contain the levels of EPA and DHA which are the active lipids needed for relief of some symptoms.

The reason that Moxxor does work to some extent is simple. The body of almost everyone is very deficient in these elements so even getting a small amount into the bloodstream is a god send for the body.

All sources of GSM oil that has been processed with the Whitehouse process are BETTER than Moxxor!

Lyprinol does cost almost half of Moxxor, and WHY when it is a far superior GSM oil? BECAUSE IT IS NOT BOGGED down with a scam MLM marketing scheme. That is why.

More Interesting facts about Moxxor:

The Gelcap used contains MSG, and Bovine materials that are supplied by animal "rendering factories" If you do not know what these are I highly suggest that you Google the term You will be shocked and sickened, and may vomit. It is an elaborate marketing scheme with a 95 - 99.5% failure and attrician rate. Moxxor has been reviewd by  http://www.mlm-thetruth.com/EvalsH-M.htm and found to be yet another mlm scam.

The touted Orac value of their grape antioxidant also needs to be looked at. The Moxxor website does NOT provide the ACTUAL ORAC test results. It does however provide the "nutricional" value report. This is NOT the same thing at all. The Orac report will contain KEY information about the elements that make up the ORAC report like Gallic Acid percentage....Folks this is VERY important but strangly missing from the moxxor site.

Bottom line if you are going to be involved with any product DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH! do not just swallow the marketing garbage, what are you doing! o.k. fine bend your heads back open your mouths pinch your nose from the stench and swallow.

Oh yea Right! The charity work that they do.....Yea just the same way the mafia mobsters gave to charity to to help with "credibility" issues. Come on people pull your heads out of your annuses.

Promote products and services that are REALLY GOOD for people, not just hype and to line your pockets by suckering in others to another mlm scheme. Moxxor knows full well that over 90% of you who join will NOT EARN ANYTHING! They have a 90% drop out rate. Check Alexa on Google you will see they are in the toilet and going down no matter what they say The numbers do not lie!!!! Their Demographics are horrible! they do not care about the product getting to the right people to help people health wise Hell No they are targeting suckers just like all of you who have "Bought In" To the deception. Don't believe what I am saying? Fine then do not search Alexa On google the international web indexing portal.

Moxfox says

Does that mean its the "Most powerful all natural omega-3 and antioxidant on the planet" or only the most powerful one available exclusively from New Zealand.

I am afraid the above statement is absolute rubbish. There is not one shred of evidence to back up such an outlandish claim. The actual EFA from the Moxxor mussel oil component are pathetic. Lyprinol has many times the EPA and DHA and is half the price. Even Krill oil is far more powerful with its highly bioavailable  phospholipids.

Lets get into some scientific proof here instead of frenzied hype.

Hello Dr. Fiske,

I see that your a practicing chiropractor who is a distributor with Moxxor . I just recently became a distributor on october 17th and I would like to target many of the chiropracters, acupuncturists, & herbalists, in my area and introduce this product & opportuntiy to them could you give me some pointers on what to do and what not to do . Your input is greatly appreciated .

Sincerely,

Mark

Remember People:

You must take the product to experience your own health benefits. AND...As with any natural supplement, Moxxor being no exception, we are not allowed to make health claims, stories or insinuations about the product.

As taken directly from the Moxxor Policies:

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5.12.2 Product Claims

No claims (which include personal testimonials) as to therapeutic, curative, or beneficial properties of any products offered by MOXXOR may be made except those contained in Official MOXXOR Literature. In particular, no Distributor may make any claim that MOXXOR products are useful in the cure, treatment, diagnosis, mitigation, or prevention of any diseases. Distributors are not allowed to make health claims. Such statements can be perceived as medical or drug claims. Not only do such claims violate MOXXOR policies, but they potentially violate federal and state laws and regulations, including the federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act and Federal Trade Commission Act.   

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Tina
http://moxxmlm.com

Are you still active with Moxxor?

Seeing a lot of stuff about fillers in the product, referals to the FTC by the BBB, etc.

What's the story?

Any feedback on the Moxxor Convention?

All I hear is the sound of crickets....

Is anyone attending the Moxxor convention?

I was considering it, but I'm local so I don't need a hotel room and thus can't get free entry by renting a room.

Curious to see if it's all that. Anyone who is attending, or who does attend, please post your thoughts.

Moxxor just topped the new listings for MLMRankings.com

MLMRankings Top Gainers:

http://mlmrankings.com/top_gainers.asp

I looked into this before.

$499 is a RIDICULOUS amount of money to charge for entry to a launch event.  The goal is for distributors to bring as many prospects as possible to the event to show them how the company is growing.  $499 is prohibitive, and makes me wonder at the level of experience the company has in MLM.

This new email, this close to the event, leads me to the opinion that sign ups for the event may not be high enough to show the kind of crowd / support one needs for one of these events.

Watch for more emails as the date grows closer, offering free admission with or without the room at the Westin.

My question - how do distributors who actually paid the $499 feel when they see others are getting a freebie just for staying at the hotel? I'd be livid, and expecting a refund.

G'day,

Every day Johnny and I receive emails from our MOXXOR Distributors who desperately want to attend MOXX ROCKS but just don’t have the money. It touches our heart as we don’t want anyone, because of the lack of money, to miss this “once in a life-time” event. Johnny and I have made the decision to provide the opportunity for everyone to attend MOXX ROCKS at the minimum of costs – we have decided to give away FREE $499.00 tickets to MOXX ROCKS (includes organic breakfast, organic lunch, and a five-star organic dinner on Saturday) to all Distributors who book a room at the Westin for Friday and Saturday, September 25th & 26th.

This will be a monumental event, this event will only take place ONCE in our lifetime – There will ONLY be ONE Grand Opening of MOXXOR ever – Don’t miss it!

Act now and receive up to 2 FREE tickets to MOXX ROCKS when you book 2 nights at the luxurious Westin Hotel in Orange County, California. Each guest will receive a free ticket for every 2 nights booked, a maximum of 2 tickets per room.

We have secured luxury rooms at steeply discounted rates of $129.00 per room, we have only a limited number of rooms – Click here to book NOW!

Any questions, please call our dynamic Customer Care Team for more details.

THIS EVENT WILL CHANGE YOUR LIFE!...DON'T MISS IT!

Blessings,
Noel and Johnny Turner
Co-Founders & Visionaries

 [quote user="Michele"]I went to corporate last week and asked for the same type of information.[/quote]

Hi Michele,

Could you post what you know?

Hello, My name is Michele and I am a distributor.I was wondering if anyone has gotten back to you with the correct answer?  I have found there to be a lot of information floating around and it is not always correct.I went to corporate last week and asked for the same type of information.Get back to me if you still need help. moxxstar.m@rock.com

Hello all.

I am an interested party who is considering signing up. I have never been involved with a MLM before, but I believe this is an excellent product. I can't wait to give it a try both for myself and for my partner with chronic back pain. My question is this... with Marlborough Sound being fragile and nearly over farmed already, how will Moxxor be able to sustain immense growth as predicted without causing environmental damage that out weighs the benefits? Is this discussed? It seems there will be a limit to how much can be produced sustainably. I am aware that mussel farming has some serious consequences when done on a very large scale.

I look forward to being further educated on this, before deciding to come aboard. Thanks.

What's the latest?

Is there growth and momentum or are people dropping out?

Did anyone confirm if the owners actually participate in the comp plan as distributors?  I