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    • July 13, 2010 3:15 AM PDT
    • CiaAura Holographic Energy Chip

      My goal is to follow the example of many others on this site who like to be informed, and educated about products and those who are behind them. Rasner has a shady background.  I don't doubt that many people believe in a human aura, I don't because science doesn't. Even if we did have an aura what are the chances of everyone's aura responding to the same "frequencies" that are embedded in the chip? if it was even possible to put frequencies in a chip. We are way too complex and unique to be able to slap on a chip and have it tune our individual "frequency" if we even had one.  Rasner has no medical or scientific background but rather techniques to getting rich, amassing great wealth, marketing, business etc. Why trust  this guys "health" product and the "science" behind it if that's not what he specializes in?  I wouldn't take my injured dog to a lawn mower repair shop for treatment.  Facts are that bogus alternative medicine is everywhere, cieaura just happens to currently be taking the lead.  Just a new mystical twist on some old Upanishad ideas.  Maybe you should wiki Upanishad so you know what I'm talking about. All the mystical/ scientific talk cieaura uses speaks volumes in the alternative medicine quackery world. I just wish everyone was not so easily fooled.

    • July 13, 2010 4:10 AM PDT
    • CiaAura Holographic Energy Chip

      Not to be argumentative, but holographic stickers can't affect anything beyond the adhesive making them stick to your skin. There is no "science" involved with CieAura's product, period. If there were, there would be quantifiable test results done on machines that can register the technology embedded in the sticker. Applied kinesiology is not science. And if CieAura has developed the biomedical breakthrough of the century, is a MLM scheme really the way to serve humanity?

      To all you CieAura true believers, try this at home: have a family member choose between a Pokemon sticker and CieAura sticker, and let them apply it to you without you knowing which one they chose. Have them cover it with a piece of gauze so you can't tell which one it is. Repeat this experiment a minimum of three times in succession. Register the results. If the CieAura stickers are truly what you think they are, the results will be in your favor. If however you get the same results from the Pokemon stickers, then congratulations, we just saved you a ton of money and you still get your energy/pain relief/restful sleep, AND you get to look stylishly cool at the same time.

    • July 13, 2010 11:46 AM PDT
    • CiaAura Holographic Energy Chip

      I thought for a minute there you were going to explain the science with regard to the chip. I'm already familiar with the activity of a cell, however a persons own unique one of a kind DNA is what controls all functions of a single cell. Unless this chip actually re-programs the DNA in some way it will have no effect on even a single cell.  Seems as if all supporters of cieaura don't know what to say with regard to Rasner's history with similar products, nor explain scientifically how the chips are constructed. Too many simple unanswered questions, all you have is testimonials to sell this product. People have been asking "how to detect a live chip from a depleted chip" with no anwers to date. What do you have to say about Rasners connection to similar products, how do you explain the science in the chip? That's all we care about are facts not ideas and testimonials. 

    • July 13, 2010 5:06 AM PDT
    • CiaAura Holographic Energy Chip

      I am a 63 year old. Once a year I have an EKG. During the last one I had an energy chip on my chest. The machine would not take a reading of my chest until I removed the chip. She changed the contact three times before I told her what was wrong.  I am convinced that the products work. I have used the pain chips as well. There was sudden and complete relief of pain. My comments were intended to support the produces. They work and I am sure that a lot of money and time is being spent to discredit  these products.  That was the agenda to which I referred. I hope that my position is now clear. I am a master retailer and I give the chips to people who truely want to improve.

      Appierce

    • July 13, 2010 5:28 AM PDT
    • CiaAura Holographic Energy Chip

      I am a 63 year old. Once a year I have an EKG. During the last one I had an energy chip on my chest. The machine would not take a reading of my chest until I removed the chip. She changed the contact three times before I told her what was wrong.  I am convinced that the products work. I have used the pain chips as well. There was sudden and complete relief of pain. My comments were intended to support the produces. They work and I am sure that a lot of money and time is being spent to discredit  these products.  That was the agenda to which I referred. I hope that my position is now clear. I am a master retailer and I give the chips to people who truely want to improve.

      Appierce

       

      Any chance you could conduct that test I suggested to see if it's actually the CieAura stickers that are giving you those results and not just the placebo effect? Love to see your results!

       

    • July 13, 2010 8:08 AM PDT
    • CiaAura Holographic Energy Chip

      In the type of double blind experiment you speak of the data would still be skewed because I would know about the placebo. However, I will do that with my next customer and let you know the results. Please also remember some people do not benefit from the chips. We really need about ten subjects on the placebo and about the same number on the actual product to collect reliable data. We really also need someone with no interest in the outcome to conduct the test. We cannot get good data with just one person and one experiment.  Your suggestion will help to form a hypothesis.

      Appierce

    • July 20, 2010 6:56 AM PDT
    • CiaAura Holographic Energy Chip

      I  hope that you will recall that I selected three Sinus chips, I cut the backing on all three to the same size. One of the chips was taken to another room and exposed to a strong magnet.  All three chips were then placed in a bag or container and shaken well. The first chip taken from the bag did not provide relief for my sinus pressure. After more than three hours with the chip in place and drinking plenty  of clean water there was no relief.  At about noon I removed the first chip and discarded it. I selected another chip from the bag and placed it behind my ear where the first one had been removed. Less than 15 minutes later relief of my sinus pressure was felt. My next sinus problem began  Sunday. I removed the chip that was in place and replaced it with the last chip in the bag. In less than 15 minutes the pressure was relieved. My sinuses are still clear on Tuesday July 20,  2010. This product works for me. I know that you and I both know that valid experiments must be repeated several times by differend people with similiar results. Keep in mind that the probability for the last chip was 1:1 that I would draw a chip that would or would not work considering the placebo effect. It worked for me, my conclusion the chip influenced the positive  change in my sinus condition.

      Appierce

       

      Any chance you could conduct that test I suggested to see if it's actually the CieAura stickers that are giving you those results and not just the placebo effect? Love to see your results!

    • July 13, 2010 8:48 AM PDT
    • CiaAura Holographic Energy Chip

      In the type of double blind experiment you speak of the data would still be skewed because I would know about the placebo. However, I will do that with my next customer and let you know the results. Please also remember some people do not benefit from the chips. We really need about ten subjects on the placebo and about the same number on the actual product to collect reliable data. We really also need someone with no interest in the outcome to conduct the test. We cannot get good data with just one person and one experiment.  Your suggestion will help to form a hypothesis.

      Appierce

      No, you can still do the test with you and one other person, with you as the subject. It doesn't matter if you know about the placebo effect or not, the test is to gauge whether or not the CieAura stickers are bringing you the relief of if you yourself are generating the results. Having someone who already uses the stickers is the ideal scenario because they already believe that they're receiving the benefit of the product. Therefore, if someone else chooses the sticker, the results will immediately either validate or disprove CieAura's claims. Do you have someone that can perform this experiment on you?

    • July 15, 2010 5:24 AM PDT
    • CiaAura Holographic Energy Chip

      This anyone can do. secure three chips cut the backings to the same size. Place two chips in side a small paper bag or container.  take the third chip into another room, place it on a strong magnet.  I am kinda old so I still have a tape degauzer used to  erase tapes. Medical magnets will likely do. You likely have magnets on your refrigerator. Hold the demagnetized chip between the thumb and index finger. If it is dead the tips of  those two fingers should not tingle or feel numb. I did this with the sinus chip it should work with the pain and energy chip as well. I wake most mornings with horrible sinus congestion. This morning at 6:30 when my alarm went off I reached into the bag and randomly selected a chip. I placed it behind my right ear and drank a bottle of water. I finally got out of bed at 9:30. I took the trash out to the curb, relief had not come. I removed the chip I had placed earlier in the morning at 10:am and pulled another from the bag. About 15 minutes after placing it behind my right ear I felt mucus drainage and the popping I usually hear when my sinuses open following congestion. Mucus is still drining and I am able to caugh it up and spit it out. It is now 1:47 in the afternoon.  I want to go on record that I am not a spokesman for Cieaura, I am a user. I am also a war veteran. Part of my left foot is still numb from a battlefield injury. More than 20 years ago I started looking for alternative pain and discomfort relief. Humans can not function under the influence of drugs for very long.  There are also many garden variety plants that solve most of the problems we take drugs to mask. I visit the my doctor every three months. However,  he and I discuss any preposed treatment. I am not advising anyone to disregard their doctor's advice, but remember he or she is human. If I remember the law of probability correctly there is a one in chance that I will select a chip when I reach into the bag three days from now. There is also a 1:1 probablity it will or will not bring relief. Game theory may also apply to our investigation.

    • July 15, 2010 11:22 AM PDT
    • CiaAura Holographic Energy Chip

      Some of my favorite statements out there regarding holographic chips:

      Combine old Chinese philosophy/ religion with a holographic sticker= cieaura. Before the sticker there was the laundry ball, smogbuster holographic disc, holographic bracelet, lifewave energy patch. Same old people, same old fake product.

      Has the CieAura Chip been clinically tested? We are in the process of testing placebo controlled studies - clinical testing and results will be forthcoming. However, as of this time the CieAura Chip has not been clinically tested. (Quote from cieaura) So you launch a product into the market before it's tested??? What a joke.

       Are truth and facts important until they stand in the way of your dream of getting rich? People will soon realize they have been ripped off by the same jerks that conjured up the holographic nonsense that preceeded the holographic chips. Bio-magnetic sheath or human "aura" is theorized only in chinese philosophy and religion.

      ‎"Quackery is the promotion of false and unproven health schemes for a profit. It is rooted in the traditions of the marketplace", with "commercialism overwhelming professionalism in the marketing of alternative medicine".

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