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    • May 19, 2011 10:57 AM PDT
    • More bull from John:

      Thanks! Naturally, your commitment and support continue to demonstrate the type of person you are. Here at the home office we have been commenting about the quality, character and integrity of our members, a level of credibility that truly stands out! The continual e-mails of encouragement sent in to our staff are wonderful and very well received. We so appreciate all of you! TCA continues to climb ever closer in completing the herculean task of launching OUR company. We are so pleased to know you get the vision and have decided to create positive change and make a difference by building a company you can be PROUD to say you are a part of! Experts in the business world have told us tha t TCA will likely break all kinds of growth records when we launch, and we plan on being ready!

      As updates will be coming at least weekly if not more often now as we draw close to our launch, we’re going to keep these e-mails shorter than they have been in the past. So, just a few quick updates…

      First, we are working with several media companies to fulfill the company co-op. Co-op participants will be receiving a special update by Tuesday that will fill you in with all you can expect going forward. Hint – New payments and contracts have been made, testing has been completed, and sign-ups are ‘on their way’!

      In preparation for our launch, we will be going to one weekly corpora te webinar per week to bring everyone worldwide into one call. We’re looking forward to the excitement and synergy this will create! Please click on the survey link below and let us know your preference, it would be much appreciated. We will release the new time by e-mail and update the back office later this week.

      http://johnmilanoski.com/webinar-survey

      An excited TCA member wrote into the TCA blog recently and really seemed to hit the nail on the head with respect to the challenges that our corporate team has been facing as we bring this ‘GIANT’called TCA to the world. If you’d like to read a candid post by this member that we felt upon reading it really sums up where we’re at and what TCA is doing, please click the following link.

      http://johnmilanoski.com/1-accurate-thi ... -milanoski

      Last but not least for this update, and especially if you are new or wondered about how many companies we have signed up to offer deals, there’s NO worries there! As you’ve built it, they have come – and faster every day! Many aspects of our online virtual office will continue to be streamlined by the programmers, so stay tuned for updates there as well. Thanks to all those who have mustered through and made our long list of member sponsored businesses that are ready to go!

      Please stay tuned for our next update that will have more exciting news as we begin our final launch countdown! Thanks again,

      TCA Corporate

      All the signs of a crumbling company. No worries there - lol . . .

    • May 19, 2011 4:31 AM PDT
    • Previously John M said:

      " We have more than 1000 businesses on board right now.  We also have the ability through 2 separate agreements to reach over 9 million businesses as quickly as we need! "

      If this is the case - why haven't you posted any deals? You haven't provided anything but excuses.  Regardless of the reasons - this is business.  You should have a contingency plan.  I realize being a one man show - that is hard to do.

      I reached out to you in several emails on how my team could help you get deals going - but, no response.

      If the above is true - you should have plenty of deals flowing.

      By the time you actually have any deals - tca will be dead.

      Where is the tca corporate office? Who handles your accounting?  What bank is the business account in?  Besides yourself - who is a steward of the rep's money?

      Tom

    • May 19, 2011 4:27 AM PDT
    • In another thread John M said:

      " We have more than 1000 businesses on board right now.  We also have the ability through 2 separate agreements to reach over 9 million businesses as quickly as we need! "

      If this is the case - why haven't you posted any deals? You haven't provided anything but excuses.  Regardless of the reasons - this is business.  You should have a contingency plan.  I realize being a one man show - that is hard to do.

      I reached out to you in several emails on how my team could help you get deals going - but, no response.

      If the above is true - you should have plenty of deals flowing.

      By the time you actually have any deals - tca will be dead.

      Where is the tca corporate office? Who handles your accounting?  What bank is the business account in?  Besides yourself - who is a steward of the rep's money?

      Tom

    • April 23, 2011 11:20 PM PDT
    • Here is my 2 cents...with all my due respect.

      It can be very difficult for the person looking for a business opportunity to tell the difference between a legitimate multi level marketing opportunity and a pyramid scheme at a glance. How do you tell whether it's a legitimate business opportunity or a scam?

      There are six tips for identifying a pyramid scheme. The big difference between multi level marketing and a pyramid scheme is in the way the business operates. The entire purpose of a pyramid scheme is to get your money and then use you to recruit other suckers (ahem - distributors). The entire purpose of multi level marketing is to move product. The theory behind multi level marketing is that the larger the network of distributors, the more product the business will be able to sell.

      Use these questions as an acid test if you're in the least doubt as to whether the opportunity you're considering is multi level marketing or a pyramid scheme:

      Is It a Pyramid Scheme?

      1)      Are you required to "invest" a large amount of money up front and / or soon or later to become a distributor? This investment request may be disguised as an inventory charge. Legitimate multi level marketing businesses do not require large start up costs nor will give people to be under your down line.

       EXAMPLE: Seems "free" isn't always the case. How does one buy "15 people"? OR 20 people? Or whatever number of C0-OP’s??….Are these virtual people?, dead people?, wax figures?, what? I assume anyone who signed up for FREE would not want to give themselves to someone else who paid a fee as their upline would expect them to stay right under them. I know I wouldn't want to share the people I brought in for FREE before launch or after launch. Hmmmm....do I have a point?

      2) If you do have to pay for inventory, will the company buy back unsold inventory? Legitimate multi level marketing companies will offer and stick to inventory buy-backs for at least 80% of what you paid.

      3) Is there any mention of or attention paid to a market for the product or service? Multi level marketing depends on establishing a market for the company's products. If the company doesn't seem to have any interest in consumer demand for its products, don't sign up.

      4) Is there more emphasis on recruitment than on selling the product or service? Remember, the difference between multi level marketing and a pyramid scheme is in the focus. The pyramid scheme focuses on fast profits from signing people up and getting their money. If recruitment seems to be the focus of the plan, run; it may well be a pyramid scheme.

      These next two questions will help you determine what the focus of the company is:

      5) Is the plan designed so that you make more money by recruiting new members rather than through sales that you make yourself? This is the signature of a pyramid scheme operation.

      6) Are you offered commissions for recruiting new members? Another pyramid scheme trademark. It's the number of people who are willing to sign up that matters in a pyramid scheme, not the products or services being offered.

      How to Protect Yourself From Pyramid Schemes

      As always, when you're investigating a potential business opportunity, you'll want to gather all the information you can about the multi level marketing company's products and operations.

      Get (and read) written copies of the company's sales literature, business plan and/or marketing plan. Talk to other people who have experience with the multi level marketing company and the products, to determine whether the products are actually being sold and if they are of high quality. Check with the Better Business Bureau to see if there have been any complaints about the company. And listen carefully when you're at that multi level marketing recruitment meeting. Inflated claims for the amazing amounts of money you're going to make should set your alarm bells ringing.

      Being part of a successful multi level marketing company can be both profitable and fun, but unfortunately, some purported multi level marketing opportunities are actually pyramid schemes designed to flatten both your wallet and your dream of running a business.

      Question; Where does the $75 dollars (from the co-op's -TCA) go? I would love someone involved with this company (The Customer Advantage) TCA to fully explain this option of co-op to me. I hope I didn’t offend anyone by asking one question. Thank you!

      Happy Easter to everyone!!

    • April 23, 2011 2:20 AM PDT
    • I don't know very much about The Customer Advantage, but I have heard alot about it. In reading this thread and another one like it, I can see what issues people have with John M. but at the same time, I can also see why he wouldn't bother posting anymore with the genuine lack of basic diplomacy by the people making accusations. One guy named "Jackmeoff" really showed that some people lack a basic decency and respect not only to other posters but also to him or herself really. Most intellectually able people don't require "attack-tics", insults and a long line of negative criticism to make a point. People can easily ask respectful, but direct questions. For example, you could easily have asked John why he is not able to give a specific date, or what his reasons were for appearing in said video; or even if something about his lifestyle, his house, or the amount of money he has is accurate. Lies often speak for themselves, and only the feeble-minded have a difficult time seeing through them. All most of you have managed to do is drive off any hope of answers, even if only lies, they would have been something for us to discuss.

      Now there is no one here to question. Just my 2 cents.

    • April 22, 2011 12:44 PM PDT
    • It doesn't matter if you launch.  

      Again, I would like to point out that all responses by John M. never addresses the facts and numbers.  He avoids the tough questions and challenges those people who ask them and accuses them of not wanting others to do well - A typical defense.

      Please reread his MLM rhetoric and you will see what I mean.  He never addresses the difficult questions.

      I know that my intention, after many years of watching people being scammed, is to ask the hard questions and sit back and watch people not answer them.  

      The only reason for me being here is to help someone from being scammed.  I don't know John M.  nor do I care to.  I'm sure it bugs him that I don't feed his ego as the followers do.

      I will ask again.  How about going over the math?

    • May 19, 2011 4:24 AM PDT
    • John M said:

      " We have more than 1000 businesses on board right now.  We also have the ability through 2 separate agreements to reach over 9 million businesses as quickly as we need! "

      If this is the case - why haven't you posted any deals? You haven't provided anything but excuses.  Regardless of the reasons - this is business.  You should have a contingency plan.  I realize being a one man show - that is hard to do.

      I reached out to you in several emails on how my team could help you get deals going - but, no response.

      If the above is true - you should have plenty of deals flowing.

      By the time you actually have any deals - tca will be dead.

      Where is the tca corporate office? Who handles your accounting?  What bank is the business account in?  Besides yourself - who is a steward of the rep's money?

      Tom

    • May 10, 2011 6:41 AM PDT
    • Thank you for your insight Chuck, and I agree that a launch means little over the big picture. I'm not exactly thinking this will be a successful explosion, I guess I really don't know what to think. It reminds me of my very first PC I built (forgive the weird analogy here). I built this rig which 10 years ago was top of the line. Best Video card, processor, max memory, versatile motherboard and an amazing sound card. I bought the components separately based on reviews, and performance specs etc. Each week, I got a new part, slowly putting them in this amazing case PC case. I was positive it would rock, I had visions of hitting the power button for the first time, and hearing those whirring fans start up, like something out of a high tech sci fi movie. Needless to say, I spent about 6 weeks getting more and more excited as that final day slowly arrived, when I put the last part in I sat at the table ready to call my buddy and tell him how amazing it was, but when I hit the power button, not a damn thing happened. I did get it to start up after a day or two tinkering with different things, but I could never get the bios to boot. I tried different things, I could hear that things were functioning, but none of it would function together. Since I didn't know what I was doing, I tried all kinds of strange things to get it to work, and fried system components in the process, creating more problems. Ultimately, in the end I found out that all that was wrong was that my motherboard had an outdated bios that needed to be upgraded at the factory before it would recognize the rest of the PC. Yet, I ruined the things that did work, in my inexperienced attempt at troubleshooting.

      I know the analogy is a little weird, but somehow I feel the same sensation when I look at The Customer Advantage. I would like to think John Milanoski has legit intentions, I mean I don't know the man, its not for me to say, but somehow I think things would have panned out a bit differently, and there would have been enough planning involved to have had a launch date, and to be able to provide the kind of information that paying and planning reps rightfully expected. How can you possibly recruit, or build networks, or even get excited about something you have no definite information on? Anyway, we've debated this to death, Vision2010 pretty much gave the kind of answer I expected I guess. Good luck to all.

    • May 9, 2011 3:43 PM PDT
    •        "The Customer Advantage does not exist!" It is YOUR EXPERIENCE IN IT that does!" Our make up is so phenomenal that our words actually becomes our law in life! It makes no difference what business one get's involved with. The business is just a vehicle to help someone OVERCOME in order to BECOME!

              What if the founders of Amway Global got discouraged back in the day when some of its' distributors "lost" their shirts, today, they wouldn't be the largest network marketing company in the world! The point I am trying to make, Wallace, is that it is all RELATIVE! It's all about YOUR EXPERIENCE and no one else's!!

             Talk to you soon! 

    • May 9, 2011 6:53 AM PDT
    • Wallace,

      While I too would like to hear what he has to say, I would like to point out something because I think that if this thing launches, many reps are going to say I told you so.

      To me, it doesn't matter if they get a deal somewhere out there.  It still doesn't make it legit.  We have to look at the math facts and how much money the company will be taking from it reps.

      Case in point.  Adsurfdaily was up and running. It is being prosecuted as a multi-million dollar ponzi scheme.  Global Verge, a phone MLM, eventually got some phones, not the 5G phones they touted from the beginning to get people to sign up, but still they got some phones.  Of course, you could have gone to Wal-mart and gotten the same thing for cheaper and in the mean time people continued to pay their monthly fee to the company.

      So my point is launching does not make everything wonderful.  And regarding the experience issue, society is not a free for all.  Passing on experiences is supported by the great circle of life.  Parents, even in the animal kingdom, are teaching their offspring what berries not to eat etc..  We would be remiss if we didn't point out dangers in this world and just let everyone figure it out for themselves.  Would we want our child to go steal something just to learn it's not the right thing to do?  No, we inform them as to why they shouldn't do it.  I argue that it's the willingness to want to believe in something for their own advancement that they spew out excuses like the originator of this thread.  You will notice that he has joined TCA.

    • May 6, 2011 3:07 AM PDT
    • How long have you been with The Customer Advantage? Do you feel secure that it will launch soon? This has been an ongoing topic here on the forums and we actually had J. Milanoski on the boards at one time but heavy questioning sort of chased him away. If we can't continue to talk to the man himself then perhaps a representative of The Customer Advantage can share his or her insight into their time with the company. Interested? If I may, I definitely don't really want to hear a sales pitch, or anything like that, just a very honest and direct insight into what it has been like for you thus far. I don't know about anyone else but I myself am very interested in getting an account of your experiences so far. This has been a very rocky topic, and I have come across so much negative feedback lately all over the internet that I must admit to feeling as though the company may not ever launch at all. Lots and lots of people were very excited about TCA just a few months ago, but things seem to have really taken a turn for the worst in the PR department. Your thoughts?

    • May 5, 2011 2:50 PM PDT
    • I actually use that philosophy in all aspects of my life, including The Customer Advantage, which I am currently a member of! I hope that satisfies your curiosity!

      Tony A.

    • May 4, 2011 7:55 AM PDT
    • Interesting, in fact I would more or less agree with this philosophy. I guess what I'm wondering is, based on the title and of course the content of the thread, I was uncertain what this had to do with The Customer Advantage? Was it based on another thread or something? Just curious.

       

    • May 3, 2011 11:52 AM PDT
    • Sure, Mr. Wallace! The point that I was trying to make is that what MATTERS is not the experiences of others, the circumstances or events that you encounter on a daily basis; rather, at the end of the day, it is YOUR EXPERIENCE, in the experience of others and in the circumstances or events that you encounter on a daily basis that MATTERS!

      I hope that clarifies it a little bit!

      Tony A.

    • May 3, 2011 3:49 AM PDT
    • Hmm, care to expand on that a bit?

    • April 27, 2011 5:27 PM PDT
    • If I go most of the day with a positive dialogue, and everyone that I come in contact with goes most of the day with a negative dialogue, my question to this PANEL is, when I go to bed at night, whose dialogue do you think will stick to my mind LIKE A MAGNET? Well, you guessed right: MINE!!!!!!!!

      Did I also forget to mention that a DIALOGUE does not return void to its' sender. The fact of the matter is that it is not the information, circumstances and events that come into your life that either MAKES or BREAKS you; rather, it is WHAT YOU SAY, "based" upon the information, circumstances and events that come into your life, that WILL either MAKE or BREAK you!

      Thanks Panel for letting me share!

      Anthony Agbro

       

       

    • May 19, 2011 4:23 AM PDT
    • John,

      you said:

      " We have more than 1000 businesses on board right now.  We also have the ability through 2 separate agreements to reach over 9 million businesses as quickly as we need! "

      If this is the case - why haven't you posted any deals? You haven't provided anything but excuses.  Regardless of the reasons - this is business.  You should have a contingency plan.  I realize being a one man show - that is hard to do.

      I reached out to you in several emails on how my team could help you get deals going - but, no response.

      If the above is true - you should have plenty of deals flowing.

      By the time you actually have any deals - tca will be dead.

      Where is the tca corporate office? Who handles your accounting?  What bank is the business account in?  Besides yourself - who is a steward of the rep's money?

      Tom

       

    • April 23, 2011 11:24 PM PDT
    • Here is my 2 cents...with all my due respect.

       

      It can be very difficult for the person looking for a business opportunity to tell the difference between a legitimate multi level marketing opportunity and a pyramid scheme at a glance. How do you tell whether it's a legitimate business opportunity or a scam?

      There are six tips for identifying a pyramid scheme. The big difference between multi level marketing and a pyramid scheme is in the way the business operates. The entire purpose of apyramid scheme is to get your money and then use you to recruit other suckers (ahem - distributors). The entire purpose of multi level marketing is to move product. The theory behind multi level marketing is that the larger the network of distributors, the more product the business will be able to sell.

      Use these questions as an acid test if you're in the least doubt as to whether the opportunity you're considering is multi level marketing or a pyramid scheme:

      Is It a Pyramid Scheme?

      1)      Are you required to "invest" a large amount of money up front and / or soon or later to become a distributor? This investment request may be disguised as an inventory charge. Legitimate multi level marketing businesses do not require large start up costs nor will give people to be under your down line.

       EXAMPLE: Seems "free" isn't always the case. How does one buy "15 people"? OR 20 people? Or whatever number of C0-OP’s??….Are these virtual people?, dead people?, wax figures?, what? I assume anyone who signed up for FREE would not want to give themselves to someone else who paid a fee as their upline would expect them to stay right under them. I know I wouldn'twant to share the people I brought in for FREE before launch or after launch. Hmmmm....do I have a point?

      2) If you do have to pay for inventory, will the company buy back unsold inventory? Legitimate multi level marketing companies will offer and stick to inventory buy-backs for at least 80% of what you paid.

      3) Is there any mention of or attention paid to a market for the product or service? Multi level marketing depends on establishing a market for the company's products. If the company doesn'tseem to have any interest in consumer demand for its products, don't sign up.

      4) Is there more emphasis on recruitment than on selling the product or service? Remember, thedifference between multi level marketing and a pyramid scheme is in the focus. The pyramid scheme focuses on fast profits from signing people up and getting their money. If recruitment seems to be the focus of the plan, run; it may well be a pyramid scheme.

      These next two questions will help you determine what the focus of the company is:

      5) Is the plan designed so that you make more money by recruiting new members rather than through sales that you make yourself? This is the signature of a pyramid scheme operation.

      6) Are you offered commissions for recruiting new members? Another pyramid scheme trademark. It's the number of people who are willing to sign up that matters in a pyramid scheme,not the products or services being offered.

      How to Protect Yourself From Pyramid Schemes

      As always, when you're investigating a potential business opportunity, you'll want to gather all the information you can about the multi level marketing company's products and operations.

      Get (and read) written copies of the company's sales literature, business plan and/or marketing plan. Talk to other people who have experience with the multi level marketing company and the products, to determine whether the products are actually being sold and if they are of high quality. Check with the Better Business Bureau to see if there have been any complaints about the company. And listen carefully when you're at that multi level marketing recruitment meeting. Inflated claims for the amazing amounts of money you're going to make should set your alarm bells ringing.

      Being part of a successful multi level marketing company can be both profitable and fun, but unfortunatelysome purported multi level marketing opportunities are actually pyramid schemes designed to flatten both your wallet and your dream of running a business.

       

      Question; Where does the $75 dollars (from the co-op's -TCA) go? I would love someone involved with this company (The Customer Advantage) TCA to fully explain this option of co-op to me. I hope I didn’t offend anyone by asking one question. Thank you!

      Happy Easter to everyone!!

       

       

    • April 22, 2011 7:54 AM PDT
    • Funny that when a question is posed to John M., this is what he has to say.

      ok.  share your intention Jack!

      Your direction and intent is clear Jack.

      It is very easy for someone that hides behind an anonymous name with intent to harm another person.  That is the equivalent of a terrorism, isnt it?

      Care to reveal your real self?

      Now, you speak of a bank robber etc... Don't they wear a mask?  The surely dont stand in the open saying their name and intentions, do they?

      Which side of the equation are each of us on here?  It's apparent we are not on the same side!

      No one sent money orders or cash via fed ex.  this was all transacted through a real bank.   Jack, are you the owner of that blog?  I will gladly answer any of your questions that pertain to what is going on once you reveal your true identity.  You could also post the responses i sent to you or that blog owner whenever you like.

      who's friend are you?

      The best defense is a good offense, isn't it?

      Also in ALL the text that John M. has been kind enough to post here, you will notice that he does not address any real issues.  It's all MLM rah rah crapola.  He does not mention where the money is, how the math does or does not work, etc. etc.

      And, even if this does launch, the point is, launch what?  It will not change the math.

      I encourage people to reread John M.'s posts and pay close attention to the fact that it's all about hype.  

    • April 19, 2011 11:58 PM PDT
    • "One of the issues with the MLM industry is the abundance of hype which plays on hope, greed, and vanity to entice people to sign up for programs where there is little or no hope that they will earn any money."

      I wouldn't disagree with you at all here Liv, but show me someplace in advertising, show me in Walmart, in an auto mechanic's shop, an infomercial, a mainstream commercial, more than most mlms, the pharmaceutical industry, show me where advertising is 100% accurate. If you're an individual who is heavily focused on mlms, therefore you feel compelled to maintain a crusade in the interest of keeping it as pure as possible (and I am not being sarcastic, I mean that sincerely), than I can definitely respect that. In that case I can see why you're focusing on these things, but my expectations are so low with all advertising that I guess I don't see John M. doing anything that anyone else doesn't do.

      "We all can cite numerous cases where many people have lost a lot of money on Mlms that either failed or were fraudulent (or both). A common tactic in luring people in is for the leader of the plan to present himself as wealthy and successful, implying that those who sign up can become so too if they will just join up and have faith. Mr. Milanoski uses these tactics to promote TCA second-hand, implying that he is a "Millionaire Marketer" who lives in a palatial house and is backed by a billionaire. None of these claims are true, so anyone who would sign up believing that he holds a secret to success that he is willing to share with them would have been mis-led in the extreme."

      I've seen the stills of the background, and I admit it looks green screened, but I haven't seen the actual promo vids for those companies and services, do you know if they're still available? The one where he is standing next to the blonde actually reminds me of the home decor department of Home Depot or Lowe's, where customers sit down and go through kitchen designs etc. I didn't take the stills themselves as though John was claiming to be a millionaire, though maybe somewhere in the vids or in writing he claims that he is, I have no idea one way or another, but even if he said he was, trying to assess it visually is just silly, presumptuous, and even judgmental. I'd actually be living pretty modestly if I were a millionaire, with my most expensive things being hard to see on the surface. Its possible that he is not a fancy house and car white bread American. Not everyone wants to utilize wealth the way most people would, and for the record, I have no vested interest or particular reason for defending or prosecuting the man, I just think the methods are a little silly.

      I've been posting here awhile, doing reviews when I feel like it, and I can tell you anyone with common sense knows very few, I mean VERY few of these companies are going to make you any money, and even fewer of them haven't made the very same claims and used the same tactics to recruit that he has. Though again, I haven't seen the videos, so maybe they show him blatantly parading around claiming to have made billions and eating lunch with the Rockefellers, I wouldn't know.

      "I have no doubt that Mr. Milanoski sincerely believes he is doing something worthwhile."

       Well, all do respect if that was entirely true, I don't think the dialogue would have panned out quite the way it did lol. You're saying that John M. is basically a con man, further slandering the name of the mlm industry, and if that indeed is the case, I would think he wouldn't consider his opportunity worthwhile, which would make much of what he's said here that much more abhorrent.

      "It truly seems like yet another example of someone coming up with a business idea that he was unable to execute on."

      Could very well be the case, but that would be bad luck at best, and incompetence at worst, but does it make him a con man? That is really the only question I have because it really does sort of change the entire scope of what he's all about. Anyway, I appreciate your points, and can definitely relate to where you're coming from. If you have the time and desire, let me know if those videos contained more than what we can get from the stills, I'm curious to watch them.

    • April 19, 2011 11:07 AM PDT
    • Wallace, your attempts to maintain a civil discourse are commendable. However, I must respectfully disagree with the idea that exaggeration in advertising is excusable.

      One of the issues with the MLM industry is the abundance of hype which plays on hope, greed, and vanity to entice people to sign up for programs where there is little or no hope that they will earn any money. We all can cite numerous cases where many people have lost a lot of money on MLMs that either failed or were fraudulent (or both). A common tactic in luring people in is for the leader of the plan to present himself as wealthy and successful, implying that those who sign up can become so too if they will just join up and have faith. Mr. Milanoski uses these tactics to promote TCA second-hand, implying that he is a "Millionaire Marketer" who lives in a palatial house and is backed by a billionaire. None of these claims are true, so anyone who would sign up believing that he holds a secret to success that he is willing to share with them would have been mis-led in the extreme.

      I have no doubt that Mr. Milanoski sincerely believes he is doing something worthwhile. But so far he has not only put forth misleading advertisements, he has failed to deliver even minimally on what he has promised to the people who did sign up for TCA. It truly seems like yet another example of someone coming up with a business idea that he was unable to execute on. That is why it's always best to wait to market a business until it's actually established and proven. Announcing an unfinished business plan prematurely is kind of like letting the world know you're having a baby when you are two weeks over your monthly date. Maybe you're having a baby, but maybe you're not. Better to wait until you know for sure.

    • April 19, 2011 4:57 AM PDT
    • I don't really see to what extent any of those show someone's character, honestly most of you have no problem buying products that you know don't do 100% what they say they do. First of all, any responsible adult with even a low IQ should know better than to think some marketing system is going to make them a millionaire. If you're even concerned about what someone in a video owns, and you're looking at the background to check out the quality of their pad, you're kind of a tool, and a little pathetic. I say that because realistically, just about 80% of what you see on TV is not real, least of all in commercials of any kind, so why are you even concerned that John had green screen work done in any of those commercials.

      Seriously, who gives a shit?

      All commercials are yanking you, that's what they're designed to do, to exaggerate, if you want to be specific about it. The guy doesn't seem to be a millionaire, then again, what exactly does a millionaire look like, the way they seem to on TV? Do they have huge houses, fancy cars and access to green screen studio equipment? I really have no idea, so the fact that this was even part of the whole accusation chain is kind of silly. The other issue is, the whole "character attack" syndrome, which unfortunately tends to be very effective when manipulating sheep, but is really a negative, wasteful, and energy draining to deal with. Don't get me wrong, I have no problem if you're exposing bullshit for bullshit, but some sites really just try too hard and start attacking the dumbest things, in particular, the Linkvaark page.

      You could say those businesses John was involved with suck (and I wouldn't know either way), or that they aren't very effective, etc, but where are all the countless people that were scammed, where is the bad publicity that should be riding alongside all the criticism? My only concern was really that John's plans weren't going as expected, and that maybe The Customer Advantage was nose diving because of it, that was my original feeling about it. At least on these forums, the guy himself says that isn't so, which gives us a public statement at the very least. You can pick on his answers, or his plans, his claims and whatever else, but when you get down to trying to see how wealthy he appears, or whether or not a claim about representing some member of the Billionaire-friends club is true or not, it reminds me of voting season, and I could do without it.

      That being said, it would be cool if we could be a bit more diplomatic about the discussion, that way he remains here to talk about concerns, questions and respond to criticism if only you could present things in a more respectful way, because as it is now, you just guarantee the dialogue stops, and now no one gets anywhere.

    • April 18, 2011 5:40 AM PDT
    • Verified how?  I am curious where there was ever filings of gross reciepts of 150k?  Where has it ever been listed that John Milanoski has been in foreclosure and more specifically where was that house (the one you call an Abandoned foreclosed mansion) ever listed or foreclosed on?

      Yes, you post public information that I provided but claim that I am lying?  You are tying 10% truth with lies.  Where did I state that I live at any address other than the house publicly listed?  I have never stated how high an income I have made and on nearly every conference call I state the challenges experienced over the last few years due to the economic down turn.  The fact that so many businesses and people were challenged is exactly what inspired what I am doing with TCA.  I had concern for my family since you posted pictures of my house, my address my phone numbers, one of my cars, my kids cars etc...  You are anonymous and I have no recourse or defense.

      My wife (since you attack my character - we have 5 children and she is my high school sweetheart since 84') and I chose this place for several reasons, one of which is proximity to the Fire Department because our middle daughter had seizures every day and we were frequent with the paramedics. Yes, she has a rare condition called Ring Chromosome 13. The house we have has a private road that the special bus can come up on for easy access by my wife and daughter. The house also has a 500 sq ft MIL apartment that was there in case my elderly family members might need them.  You see, all you are doing is attacking my person.  It has nothing to do with anything!  You have no regard for anthers private live, their challenges etc.  It is just pure hate you spread!  I wonder what this gets you?  Do you enjoy it?

      In reality, anyone can see that it has nothing to do with TCA at all.  It is an attack Character attack.  For what purpose?

      I lived in those apartments as my house was being finished in 2001.  They surely were not low income and it was a temporary living arrangement between homes.  Pretty standard circumstance.  Again, what does it have to do with The Customer Advantage.  Anyone of worth understands the difference of a liablity and an Asset.  Please google Warren Buffets house and car he drives... Mark Zuckerburg lives in a 2400 sq ft house and walks to work. 

      Honestly, with the way housing prices are dropping, do you think it is wise to have your money tied there anyway?  Probably everyone on this blog that has owned a home for the last 6 years has seen their house value cut in half.  That is going to continue, IMO.  Any smart long term thinker understands the detriment of a depreciating asset, especially a car or house that is not generating income.

      Well, enough wasted time.  say all you like, those that know me understand the truth.   those that want to know me can surely connect with me, I am not anonymous and surely not hiding!   I am only making an effort to make a difference for as many people as I can and anyone that wants to get in the way of that has ulterior motives.  Time will tell all!

      For all I know, each person anonymously posting here is the same person.  Just realize, you are the minority when it comes to The Customer Advantage.

      I still wonder why the person that is spreading such hate is anonymous.  Why do you not show your true name and allow us to link your true self with your name?  state your intentions!  Who you are affiliated with etc...!

      You have distracted me a bit and this will be the final post from me here.  The Customer Advantage will launch and succeed.  We have had a few challenges, some caused by malicious people that are of scarcity mindset.  Worried about someone having more than they have or achieving what they think they cant.  I say, you have every ability for abundance, kindness and giving.  There is plenty to go around and until you begin to give and contribute to others, you most likely will never experience that.

      Just remember, this existence here is short, it will go fast and when you come to the end... what question will you ask yourself then?  What will those around you say then?  Did you matter?  Did you make a difference?  Did you LIVE and LOVE!   

      Keep it in perspective.

      1. intention

      2. source of information

      3. relavence

      Not necessarily in that order.

      All the best to EVERYONE, Even you Mr Linkvaark.  May you find it in your heart to one day go out and lift someone up and make a positive difference!

      Today, it is much easier to rise by lifting others rather than trying to beat everyone else down so you end up on top.  EARN YOUR RESPECT!  First, you would have to be non - anonymous.

       

    • April 18, 2011 4:29 AM PDT
    • Just in the interest of accuracy, NOT ONE THING was removed from Linkvaark as a result of Mr. Milanoski's attempt to have it censored. Linkvaark uses publicly available information which can be independently verified, including public land records, address information from Zabasearch, LinkedIn profiles, domain registry data, and business record web sites, among other sources. Of course, much of the information included was provided by Mr. Milanoski himself, through his promotional efforts for TCA.

      Only 1 Linkvaark page, for 1 day, was temporarily made private-only (not removed) as a result of Mr. Milanoski's complaint. This page was made public again after Wordpress/Automatic verified that the information contained on the page was indeed publicly available from other sources.

    • April 17, 2011 10:54 PM PDT
    • In the interest of truly skilled and honorable forum combat, I would suggest in future postings that accusations are delivered with an overall summary, especially if we are going to attempt precision strikes against character, mlm structure or the integrity of other posters. I wouldn't want to have to read all the links without a basic summary of your point as a whole. I'm not with John M, nor against, but I would like a much higher quality of presentation either way. On one side we have semi incoherent ramblings about the evils of John Milanoski in the form of a somewhat feeble attempt at assassination, and yet an equally feeble reaction in which John M dodges the shuriken but trips and drops his ice cream cone.

      This can go nowhere without stealth, and discipline.

      If you truly care enough to strike, then strike well, and on solid ground, and if you truly care enough to defend, then do so by addressing the core of each strike. Become intimate with your enemy's tactics, and explore every accusation in depth. When the enemy unleashes a flurry of attacks, do not attempt to wave them all away, for it will certainly result in many wounds. Instead, methodically disable each attack, one at a time.